View Full Version : Pillboxes/bunkers as obstacles
PoorOldSpike
11-09-2009, 21:47
They can be real pests at hindering movement even after they've been knocked out.
Here I've plotted the PzIVF2's straight through one to see what happens-
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub3/bunka.gif
They flatly refuse to try squeezing round it, and instead auto-plot their own route to look for another way across the river. The 3 at the back concertina'd into each other and are freaking, milling and reversing..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub3/bunkc.gif
PoorOldSpike
11-09-2009, 21:48
But in this next test, I've carefully tried plotting the tanks to squeeze around each side of the wrecked bunker without bumping it or toppling into the river. (The poor slob on the road is the knocked-out bunkers crew)
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub3/bunkf.gif
Bingo it works! (except for the one at the back who's stopped and freaking out for some reason, maybe I plotted him a shade too close to the bunker or the edge of the bridge, or maybe he's on skunk, I dunno)
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub3/bunkg.gif
CONCLUSION- You CAN plot your tanks around a bunker on a dirt road/ medium bridge and most will get past.
PoorOldSpike
11-09-2009, 21:49
Bunker on dirt road in woods
First, I plotted the tanks straight through the trashed bunker to see what'd happen..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub3/bunkb.gif
This is what happened, they bumped into it, jammed their brakes on and began milling around whistling Dixie....
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub3/bunkd.gif
But a turn later some began getting their act together and were auto-plotting around the bunker but with a lot of bumping and grinding into each other..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub3/bunke.gif
PoorOldSpike
11-09-2009, 21:50
So in this next test I tried carefully laying these plots to take them around the bunker..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub3/bunkh.gif
Bingo, it works! They all get past except for one who freaked for some reason and began bouncing around like a crackhead in a padded cell, there's always one..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub3/bunki.gif
CONCLUSION- You CAN carefully plot your tanks around a bunker on a dirt road in woods and most will get past..
PoorOldSpike
11-09-2009, 21:50
Diagonal placement
Placing a bunker diagonally on bridges and on the woods road like this still isn't guaranteed to block the roads.
These tests show that if you plot your movement lines with extreme care and accuracy, the PzIV's CAN get past.
WARNING- Nevertheless,no matter how carefully you plot any type of tank, there's always the risk that he'll clip the bunker and/or the woods or bridge edge and jam his brakes on, causing a big traffic jam as he starts bouncing around..
BRIDGE- the tanks get through
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub3/bunk-4-bri.gif
WOODS- the tanks get through
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub3/bunk-4-wood.gif
PoorOldSpike
11-09-2009, 21:51
I even tried the tests with big Tigers and they got through too.
Note the Tiger hanging its tracks in thin air as it passes the bunker on the bridge in the inset, funny..:)
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub3/bunk-tigs.gif
Final conclusion to all these tests- A single bunker/pillbox isn't guaranteed to block anything even on narrow dirt roads if movement is carefully plotted around it , so you'd need 2 or 3 side-by-side to completely block roads..
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