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PoorOldSpike
11-09-2009, 22:19
Don't try to memorise this, it's just meant to show how difficult it is to know whether we or the enemy control flags, the best we can do is just get as much stuff as possible near to a flag and keep our fingers crossed that it'll be ours at the end of the game..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/zzz.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/five.jpg
PoorOldSpike
11-09-2009, 22:19
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/CM-flagsC.jpg
PoorOldSpike
11-09-2009, 22:20
Staying quiet to keep flags neutral
These endgame screenshots show how you can keep a flag neutral by simply having a few units near it like my Germans, even though the Russians have a heavy presence nearby.
Most of my Germans in the pics are on 'Hide' with short arcs to stop them firing and giving away their position, they'd be crazy to come out and fight a superior force and get blown away for nothing.
Far better to stay alive and quietly maintain a presence to keep the flags neutral..:)
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/Competitons/MD-endc.gif
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/Competitons/MD-endb.gif
(Tac note- the long arc in this one below is simply insurance to cut down any Russians rash enough to charge at the tank, but they never did)
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/Competitons/MD-endd.gif
PoorOldSpike
11-09-2009, 22:21
Flag control tests
Test 1- Trucks never control flags
As expected at the end of the game, they don't control the flag despite sitting on top of it..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub3/tck.gif
Test 2- MG-armed halftracks with no ammo don't control the flag at end because I'd area-fired all their ammo into the ground to fully deplete them all..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub3/sd251.gif
PoorOldSpike
11-09-2009, 22:21
Test 3- MG-armed halftracks with ammo do control the flag at the end..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub3/sd251ammo.gif
Test 4- Empty tanks will control flags.
Although I stripped all their main gun ammo (HE/ AP/ Tungsten/ Smoke) the flag is still captured..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub3/empt.gif
PoorOldSpike
11-09-2009, 22:21
Test 5- Empty gun-armed vehs will control flags
Surprise surprise, although I stripped all their main gun ammo AND they have no MG's, these Nashorns still captured the flag!
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub3/nsh.gif
PoorOldSpike
11-09-2009, 22:22
Vehs with damaged guns will control flags
Note also the tank has no MG ammo left, but still controls flag
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/Competitons/damb.gif
SUMMARY- Vehs with an empty or damaged main gun will control flags, but empty MG-armed vehs will not.
Incidentally the cmbb manual states on p31- "Prisoners, ex-prisoners, forward observers, and unarmed vehicles exert no control over flags. Crews do, but you need several to reach the threshold"
PoorOldSpike
03-23-2010, 03:26
Aargh! Envens single German squad keeps the flag neutral in this endgame shot despite my heavy Brit presence around it, proving once again that flag ownership can never be guaranteed-
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/Competitons/Flag-neut.gif
I like that last pic, sometimes I wonder. Just when you seem to have the rules figured out, something like this happens.
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