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PoorOldSpike
11-16-2009, 13:42
I posted this fort pic in the pre-WW2 section..

Fort Prince of Wales, Hudson Bay Canada, built by the British in the 1700's to protect trading interests

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/Photos/FortPrinceofWalesHudBay.jpg



And Bootie asked- "I dont get this bit of the defense??"

http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/greershane/The%20FGM/FortPrinceofWalesHudBay.jpg


I don't get it either, anybody got any guesses what it's for?

Bootie
11-16-2009, 13:51
No idea but it does sit slightly to the right of the main entrance to the fort.... perhaps men could be fort side of this wall. Anyone entering towards the gate will find themselves under fire from behind and any flanking moves on it would be protected by the main fort walls to either side?

mgk
11-16-2009, 15:04
This part (ravelin) protecting straight part of main fortification (walls and gates) from direct perpendicular hit. Triangular shape increasing bouncing possibility and in this case it prevent straight charge at the gate with ram

here is Polish City ZAMOSC
Unconquered till 19th centuryhttp://www.ezamosc.pl/historia/grafika/plan_zamojskiej_twierdzy_z_1856_d.jpg
and still it looks impressive
http://foto.poland.gov.pl/cache/imgs/_w800/gallery/image/zamosc_z_lotu_ptaka.jpg

from WIKIPEDIA


A ravelin is a triangular fortification or detached outwork in front of the bastions of a fortress. Originally called a demi-lune, after lunette, the ravelin is placed outside a castle opposite a fortification curtain. The edges of the ravelin are placed so that the guns there can sweep fire upon the troops that have to run along the fortification curtain. The wall facing the castle/fort is low and the angles of the others such that the ravelin provides no shelter to attacking forces if taken or abandoned by defenders.

The word appears in the Major-General's Song, in which General Stanley sings, "In fact, when I know what is meant by mamelon and ravelin . . ."

Bootie
11-16-2009, 15:39
So I was right then... LOL

mgk
11-16-2009, 15:52
Yes Bootie :) this design was based on bloody experience of predecessors without ravelins :)

2054172
11-16-2009, 15:55
I doubt that in those days the Eskimos had anything that could take out an igloo let alone a fort!:tongue:

mgk
11-16-2009, 16:00
Wasn't it made against French ?

2054172
11-16-2009, 16:09
Wasn't it made against French ?

Well the French were the real threat but lacked punch as most french do. :cool::confused::wink: