QOTD #8 - Impact of upgunning the M4 Sherman to 76mm?

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I think it made the Sherman more dangerous against Stugs and PZIVs. Against Tigers and Panthers it was probably close to irrelevant.

But I am betting that for every tank or tank destroyer that Shermans tanks engaged, they probably engaged 4 PAKs or infantry strongpoints with Schreks/Fausts.

Everyone vastly overrates tank vs tank (the Germans didn't have that many AFVs on the Western Front) combat and vastly underrates the amazing job the Shermans did against infantry.

The thing that I cannot figure out......the US claimed that it could not get a 90mm cannon to fit on the Sherman. But the Israeli's shoe horned a 105mm gun inside the Sherman. I am guessing that the 105mm is much bigger, but who knows?

A 90mm armed Sherman would have been very effective in all roles.
 

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Was the 76.2mm of the Sherman equal to the Russian 76.2mm, in so far as tank killing (armor penetration)?
 

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Was the 76.2mm of the Sherman equal to the Russian 76.2mm, in so far as tank killing (armor penetration)?
I think the US version is slightly better.
 

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The thing that I cannot figure out......the US claimed that it could not get a 90mm cannon to fit on the Sherman...
But the US did field a Sherman with a 90mm gun- it was called the M36B1 tank destroyer, which married the M36 Jackson turret and gun to a Sherman hull. I have found at least 2 Tank Destroyer battalions listed on tankdestroyer.net that received the -B1's in February 1945. Technically it's apples and oranges, but it is a Sherman with a 90mm gun called a tank destroyer.
 

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But the US did field a Sherman with a 90mm gun- it was called the M36B1 tank destroyer, which married the M36 Jackson turret and gun to a Sherman hull. I have found at least 2 Tank Destroyer battalions listed on tankdestroyer.net that received the -B1's in February 1945. Technically it's apples and oranges, but it is a Sherman with a 90mm gun called a tank destroyer.
Very true, although that turret is not armored like a Sherman turret and obviously has an open top.
 

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Very true, although that turret is not armored like a Sherman turret and obviously has an open top.
The top cover was generally added in the field if the facility existed to do so. The turret was triangular with the narrow end behind a thick mantlet. The m36, M26B1, and M36B2 were deployed in early 1945. The gun was welcomed, but TD crews did not like the fact they were gasoline powered and prone to catching fire when hit, unlike the diesel-powered M10.
 

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I'd say that sherman crews would have been quite happy for having something to properly deal with the "tiger fear", just my two cents.
 
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