Mysteries of CM2 spotting

[Rico]

Sometimes CM2 spotting just baffles me... my tank shoots at enemy SP gun which is an open, plowed field at medium range, my tank is slightly up on a hill, clear uninterrupted LOS.

Very dusty, so tank fires in previous turn, misses, dust cloud around firing tank. So far, so good.

Dust cloud clears in next turn replay after about 10 to 15 seconds ... it then takes the firing tank nearly the whole rest of the turn to reacquire the target -- which HASN'T MOVED except for rotating on the spot in an OPEN FIELD (and having a bit of trouble in a ploughed field.)

Nope, can't see it... entire crew has got sand in their eyes???

What???

 

[Bulletpoint]

Spotting in CM is basically still based on "dice throw"... so when your tank loses sight of the target, it has to roll the right dice score to spot it again. And just like with a board game, sometimes you just keep rolling low until you start thinking the dice are loaded.

What's the medium range in this case?

 

[Stafford]

How often is the dice rolled?

 

[Bulletpoint]

How often is the dice rolled?

On average, once every 7 seconds, more often when units are close to each other.

(I need a life)

 

[A Canadian Cat]

(I need a life)

LOL that's the funniest thing I have read in a CM related forum in a long time. Don't we all.

 

[A Canadian Cat]

Yeah the no object permanence thing is one of the limitations in the game engine and when it appears it sucks.

 

[MeatEtr]

On average, once every 7 seconds, more often when units are close to each other.

(I need a life)

I could of sworn the LOS check was every 5 seconds!

 

[Bulletpoint]

I could of sworn the LOS check was every 5 seconds!

Battlefront.com
4/7/2014 at 7:18 PM:
As a note, ~7 second spotting time is shortened when units are in close proximity. I think it can go down to ~1 second IIRC.

More info here:

Spotting .... again ...

What is wrong with spotting BF ? That is so absurd, i let the pictures speak. These units are unable to spot tanks even when they SIT on them.

community.battlefront.com

 

[MeatEtr]

Interesting thanks @Bulletpoint Guess I read that 5 secs was a ballpark or average check time.

 

[eniced73]

would be interesting to know the inner mechanics of this. for example if there are penalties for moving units (fast +5 sec, quick +3, etc...) i highly doubt it.

 

[Bulletpoint]

would be interesting to know the inner mechanics of this. for example if there are penalties for moving units (fast +5 sec, quick +3, etc...) i highly doubt it.

I'd also like to know. And I also doubt there are any spotting penalties to moving fast. For example, I often find my 2-man scout teams spot enemies way off in the distance, even while the scouts are running through forest.

 

[jobu88]

My tank: stationary, hatch open, hidden behind hedge.

Enemy tank: Moving across an open field more or less directly in front of my tank.

End result: Enemy tank spots my tank, stops, aims, shoots, my tank blows up and never saw who shot him.

That was the day I came close to renouncing CM once and for all. Monty's Butchers