Operation Konrad - 2023 QB Campaign Planning

Drifter Man said:
Impressive. Reminds me of the Operation Konrad tournament I played in CMx1 about 15 years ago. Your Csepel map is the spitting image of the final battle of that tournament, as far as I can remember it.
Since you mentioned carpal syndrome... what is the most tedious/frustrating/repetitive actions in the CM scenario editor when making a map of this size and level of detail?
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That would have been cool do to...I had no idea this had been done before.

For this type of map, the worst part is the buildings. There's the clicks to get the right window style, then the clicks to get the right window/door lay-out x 4 sides x the number of stories int he building. There are short-cuts for doing an entire side of a building at once, but every side requires some subsequent customization.
 
OnePingOnly said:
That would have been cool do to...I had no idea this had been done before.

For this type of map, the worst part is the buildings. There's the clicks to get the right window style, then the clicks to get the right window/door lay-out x 4 sides x the number of stories int he building. There are short-cuts for doing an entire side of a building at once, but every side requires some subsequent customization.
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I see. Yes, this customization of buildings by having to click through the options is not user-friendly at all. I wish your wrist a quick recovery.

If that old tournament is any indication, your Konrad will be great success.
 
Drifter Man said:
Since you mentioned carpal syndrome... what is the most tedious/frustrating/repetitive actions in the CM scenario editor when making a map of this size and level of detail?
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(edit: seems we agree about the buildings)

Not to answer the question for OnePingOnly, but just to add my own take: The worst about making a big city map such as this is to click a million times to cycle through all the possible combinations of doors/windows for each building facade.

Of course some can be left as they are, but you have to peek inside each modular building connected to other buildings and make sure there are no windows facing into other buildings.

By the way, since I know you like to make computers automate things - did you check out the automatic map generator script made by Butschi over on the official forums?
 
Bulletpoint said:
Of course some can be left as they are, but you have to peek inside each modular building connected to other buildings and make sure there are no windows facing into other buildings.
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What happens when there is a window/door connected to a wall of another building. Can infantry see/pass through those?
 
dkchapuis said:
What happens when there is a window/door connected to a wall of another building. Can infantry see/pass through those?
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Yes, they pass through doors, which is fine until you realise you only made a door on one side of the wall.

And windows lets them spot and shoot into the next building which is odd.
 
Bulletpoint said:
(edit: seems we agree about the buildings)

Not to answer the question for OnePingOnly, but just to add my own take: The worst about making a big city map such as this is to click a million times to cycle through all the possible combinations of doors/windows for each building facade.

Of course some can be left as they are, but you have to peek inside each modular building connected to other buildings and make sure there are no windows facing into other buildings.

By the way, since I know you like to make computers automate things - did you check out the automatic map generator script made by Butschi over on the official forums?
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Yes, you do agree about the buildings. The inner windows add to the problem - one needs to customize invisible walls in addition to the visible one.
Thanks for letting me know about Butschi's work, I'll check it later this week. Loading terrain from an external file (heightmap/png) is a useful feature, nice to see the community step in and make it.
 
An autoclicker helps with all that interior design remodelling
 
Nathangun said:
What! That'll be very very useful.
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Here is the link if you would like to read more about it.

community.battlefront.com

Creating Maps with CMAutoEditor

I decided to create a new topic for this because "tool to set elevation in the editor" is no longer really a good description. Finally (from my perspective ) I managed to release version 2.0.0 of CMAutoEditor.https://github.com/DerButschi/CMAutoEditor Woah, Butschi, wait a minute CMAutoWhat? Wha...
community.battlefront.com community.battlefront.com
 
How do folks feel about 45-minute/turn games vs. the 30 minutes typically used during PBEM tourney play? Too long?
For context, battles are MEDIUM size, and on maps ranging from 1000x1000 to 1600x1600. I'm worried that at the larger size, 30 minutes isn't enough time.
This obviously impacts not just battle length, but overall tourney length as well.
 
OnePingOnly said:
How do folks feel about 45-minute/turn games vs. the 30 minutes typically used during PBEM tourney play? Too long?
For context, battles are MEDIUM size, and on maps ranging from 1000x1000 to 1600x1600. I'm worried that at the larger size, 30 minutes isn't enough time.
This obviously impacts not just battle length, but overall tourney length as well.
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I'd be happy with either but would it make sense to vary it as need be? So battles would be 30 minutes by default but where appropriate it could be extended? Larger maps and dense urban terrain may need more time.
 
OnePingOnly said:
How do folks feel about 45-minute/turn games vs. the 30 minutes typically used during PBEM tourney play? Too long?
For context, battles are MEDIUM size, and on maps ranging from 1000x1000 to 1600x1600. I'm worried that at the larger size, 30 minutes isn't enough time.
This obviously impacts not just battle length, but overall tourney length as well.
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maybe mix of both but either is fine
 
OnePingOnly said:
How do folks feel about 45-minute/turn games vs. the 30 minutes typically used during PBEM tourney play? Too long?
For context, battles are MEDIUM size, and on maps ranging from 1000x1000 to 1600x1600. I'm worried that at the larger size, 30 minutes isn't enough time.
This obviously impacts not just battle length, but overall tourney length as well.
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I know it may make the timing for some rounds very unusual, but I think it would be good for you to intervene as needed to declare a specific matchup to be 45min versus 30min, depending on the scale of the battle, the environment, etc.
 
OnePingOnly said:
How do folks feel about 45-minute/turn games vs. the 30 minutes typically used during PBEM tourney play? Too long?
For context, battles are MEDIUM size, and on maps ranging from 1000x1000 to 1600x1600. I'm worried that at the larger size, 30 minutes isn't enough time.
This obviously impacts not just battle length, but overall tourney length as well.
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I'm good with it. Then again, I'd be fine with 2-hour huge QBs so maybe I'm not the best person to ask ;)
 
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