QB map question

[Wellsonian]

Hi all,

I'm trying to set up a quick battle using the CMBO Road to Wiltz - revised map (185m) but in an Attack or Probe configuration. It only shows up as an option for a meeting engagement......can this be done?

Thanks!

 

[Wellsonian]

btw, what's with all the photo bucket crap? I don't even use that.

 

[Buckykatt]

Road to wiltz is a CMFB scenario I thought. I am playing a QB on that map currently

 

[Buckykatt]

Yeah, what the hell is this? @Bootie

 

[Wellsonian]

I can only access the revised road to waltz map when I play a Meeting Engagement QB. I want to use it for an attack QB, but it won't come up as a map option. The map in question is 185m. It is not the classic version of the CMBO road to wilts map

 

[Meat Grinder]

You'll need to edit your signature to take out the little icons.

 

[Wellsonian]

So I guess my question boils down to this......How can you use QB maps designed for one type of game (i.e., meeting engagement), in another type of QB (i.e. Attack)? Or can you?
Could I just get in the QB map file and change the name of map 185m, to 185a?

 

[Wellsonian]

You'll need to edit your signature to take out the little icons.

Thanks. That was really bugging me.

 

[A Canadian Cat]

I'm not totally clear are you talking about the old CM1x CMBO here (in which case I have nothing to say) or is this CM2x CMFB using the map inspired from CMBO?

If this is the CM2x game the maps you see when you setup a QB are filtered to match the type of QB you are playing. When you open any QB map or scenario in the scenario editor you can set the type of game - Probe, Assault, Attack, Meeting Engagement etc. The QB engine uses that when it shows you maps.

If this is a H2H game just saving a copy of the QB map with a new game type will work OK but you might have to reconsider the setup areas since the setup areas for an attack are not really appropriate for a ME, as just one example. If this is for single player then you will also need to change the AI plans since they should and do differ for each type of game.

 

[Wellsonian]

I'm not totally clear are you talking about the old CM1x CMBO here (in which case I have nothing to say) or is this CM2x CMFB using the map inspired from CMBO?

If this is the CM2x game the maps you see when you setup a QB are filtered to match the type of QB you are playing. When you open any QB map or scenario in the scenario editor you can set the type of game - Probe, Assault, Attack, Meeting Engagement etc. The QB engine uses that when it shows you maps.

If this is a H2H game just saving a copy of the QB map with a new game type will work OK but you might have to reconsider the setup areas since the setup areas for an attack are not really appropriate for a ME, as just one example. If this is for single player then you will also need to change the AI plans since they should and do differ for each type of game.

Thanks much! I think this answered my question. I am talking about the map that comes with the scenario in CMFB. The setup zones would indeed have to be modified, since in a QB, that map is meant for a meeting engagement battle, and I want to use it in a probe. Now the question I need to answer is, do I want to attempt to mess around with the editor?

 

[A Canadian Cat]

Yeah go for it

Especially if you are planning to use it as a H2H QB map - you can just ignore the AI plans at first and just focus on tweaking objectives and setup areas. Crack open the manual and enter the world of scenario editing.

 

[Wellsonian]

Yeah go for it

Especially if you are planning to use it as a H2H QB map - you can just ignore the AI plans at first and just focus on tweaking objectives and setup areas. Crack open the manual and enter the world of scenario editing.

I'll give it a try! Now I will have no extra time during the day.

 

[Badger73]

As @A Canadian Cat already noted but saying it another way, you have to do more than just save and rename a QB file to create a different H2H match. If you only save a QB as a new name, you've just made a copy of the original QB. Use the "Mission Editor" to specifically change "Battle type" but change the other parameters as desired too. Use the "Data Editor" to change those parameters. The "Mission Editor" defines your forces, victory parameters, terrain objectives, and such. The "Map Editor" can likely be left as is if you intend no map changes. The "Units Editor" is your main focus; undo / redo unit purchases, soft factors, reinforcements, deployments and such. The AI and Support targets need a hard look as well for your purposes.