by the end 2014 my prediction of russias new front line

they are at it again with Russian agitators in the east of Ukraine trying to split , other eastern block countries but start looking over your shoulders
 
LOL... check me getting favourited by someone who works for Russia Today...

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Let us see how this developed...
1] ELECTED govn't over thrown by western backed Neo- Nazis
2] Crimea VOTES to go to Russian side...being historically part of Russia
3] Eastern people who I would bet helped the ELECTED govn't come into power to begin with want their freedom from Kiev.

Now will Russia step in to help people who want to free themselves from a govn't that they did not elect?
Time will tell, would the USA if given the same scenario happened on their border set in to help? In a New York Minute they would!
So while quoting your western propaganda reports of the Ukraine and what is happening there ...remember there are two sides to a story...we have been lied to so many times by CNN, BBC,CBC etc. I will not be sucked into their lies again.
 
Bootie said:
Yawn.... we are not going round and round that debate again.
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Oh I agree we don't need to...but it's all tied together and if one does not think so then we will have to go round and round again. Some people are slow learners.
 
Trash talk? I agree about being dignified but calling an organization what it is ( a propaganda machine and liar) is truth not trash talk. Trash talk would be saying that their mother was a wet nurse to the town drunk. If what i wrote was trash talk then I bow out ...all I did was state facts.
 
And despite everything, I do trust Western media more then Russian. Free press is virtually absent in Russia.
 
2054172 said:
Let us see how this developed...
1] ELECTED govn't over thrown by western backed Neo- Nazis
2] Crimea VOTES to go to Russian side...being historically part of Russia
3] Eastern people who I would bet helped the ELECTED govn't come into power to begin with want their freedom from Kiev.

Now will Russia step in to help people who want to free themselves from a govn't that they did not elect?
Time will tell, would the USA if given the same scenario happened on their border set in to help? In a New York Minute they would!
So while quoting your western propaganda reports of the Ukraine and what is happening there ...remember there are two sides to a story...we have been lied to so many times by CNN, BBC,CBC etc. I will not be sucked into their lies again.
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This is a first...

I actually agree with Numbers.

We can only hope that all sides show restraint and that this does not develop into a full scale shooting war.
 
Follow the money being spent and the potential money to be made if this becomes a shooting war, that is where the truth is hidden.
 
I don't think NATO has the logistical capabilities to really do anything. Russia really doesn't have the logistics to occupy all of Ukraine. It doesn't seem like an occupation is likely, rationally speaking. However, are Putin and his cronies rational men?
 
Repman said:
I don't think NATO has the logistical capabilities to really do anything. Russia really doesn't have the logistics to occupy all of Ukraine. It doesn't seem like an occupation is likely, rationally speaking. However, are Putin and his cronies rational men?
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Ukraine isn't a member of NATO. So they are not obliged to do anything.
 
Bert Blitzkrieg said:
Ukraine isn't a member of NATO. So they are not obliged to do anything.
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Collectively they aren't, correct. Collectively they have been agitating, well more specifically the European Union has been agitating with tacit American approval.

Individually I believe that both the United States and United Kingdom have guaranteed the borders of Ukraine via international treaty. However, the issue is a mess and not the mess that is being portrayed in either the West or Russian media and information (disinformation) sources.
 
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