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Guderian

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I am become death, shatterer of worlds.
Robert J. Oppenheimer,

The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.
George Patton

The superpowers often behave like two heavily armed blind men feeling their way around a room, each believing himself in mortal peril from the other, whom he assumes to have perfect vision. Each tends to ascribe to the other side a consistency, foresight and coherence that its own experience belies. Of course, even two blind men can do enormous damage to each other, not to speak of the room.
Henry Kissinger

You should never wear your best trousers when you go out to fight for freedom and liberty.
Henrik Ibsen

Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind.
John F. Kennedy

Always remember your weapons system was made by the lowest bidder
Unknown

It was a Roman who said it was sweet to die for one's country. The Greeks never said it was sweet to die for anything. They had no vital lies.
Edith Hamilton

The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations.
David Friedman

It seems like the less a statesman amounts to, the more he loves the flag.
Unknown

Remember, to them it is us who are the enemy.
N. F. Simpson

Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.
Sun Tzu

Education is a better safeguard of liberty than a standing army.
Edward Everett

Mankind must give up war in the Atomic Era. What is at stake is the life or death of humanity.
Albert Einstein

All violence, all that is dreary and repels, is not power, but the absence of power.
Ralph Waldo Emerson

I always say that, next to a battle lost, the greatest misery is a battle gained.
The Duke of Wellington

Another victory like that and we are done for.
Pyrrhus
 
on #1 Oppenheimer.

In May 1943, Bainbridge joined the Project Y staff at Los Alamos. First he led E-9, which was charged with instrumentation development. After the lab reorganization of 1944, he worked under George Kistiakowsky as X-2 leader. In this position, he was in charge of "gadget" engineering and test preparations. On July 16, 1945, Bainbridge and his colleagues detonated an implosion bomb. After the explosion of the atom bomb he turned to J.R.Oppenheimer and said, "Now we are all sons of bitches."

'Now we are all sons of bitches'
What a fascinating comment from a team leader of A-bomb lab.
That one comment is worth a book in it's depth.

gudie
 
Interesting ... reminds of book I read last year Doomsday Men, by P.D. Smith .... in beginning of book he explores the amazing philosophical paradigm shift that occurred at the start of the 20th Century when mankind realised that it had the technology and potential to destroy itself and the potentially the world -- something that was until then God's prerogative alone.
 
To win a war...it's like a snowball fight, you better throw the next one before things heat up!----Wayne Welden
 
Rico said:
Interesting ... reminds of book I read last year Doomsday Men, by P.D. Smith .... in beginning of book he explores the amazing philosophical paradigm shift that occurred at the start of the 20th Century when mankind realised that it had the technology and potential to destroy itself and the potentially the world -- something that was until then God's prerogative alone.
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from P D Smith related page.

Like Berlin, Uruk was also famous for its wall, some 9 km long and constructed using 306,000,000 bricks. For the Sumerians who founded Uruk more than five thousand years ago, Eden was not a garden but a city. In their legends the first city was called Eridu and it was created by the god Marduk. He wanted to give his people a place of shelter, a refuge to protect them from a natural world that can be harsh and unforgiving. The Sumerians did not long for some mythic rural idyll, an unobtainable Arcadia. They believed the city was the place where all their dreams would be realised.

Smith is a thinker.

I love Sumeria. Gilgamesh and Enkidu.
In those days.. war was a given. Thats the way the world works.
has always rung hollow to me..
The world is what we make of it. is FACT [go Ellie]

gudie
 
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Hedgehog
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I studied nuclear weapons and delivery systems for many years.
interesting stuff. [technology of war]
Nuclear war would exterminate 99.5% of life on earth.
not a wise move
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Albert Einstein. was and always will be my hero.

He and Newton, Tesla and Plato.

the gang of 4 ;)

He leads the pack by 1/2 mile on 1st turn.
To imagine relativity and he IMAGINED it before a pencil was put to paper or math was used.
to imagine time dilation thus turning on head all theories of time..my god.
The awe


gudie
 
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Always remember your weapons system was made by the lowest bidder
Unknown
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Clear, direct and true.


All violence, all that is dreary and repels, is not power, but the absence of power.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
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I read a similar sometimes: Power isn´t how many people I can kill. Power is how many people I´m able to recue." But to rescue many people You need often violence because violence bows almsot always only on/to violence. So one of my greatetst heroes is Gandhi.

The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations.
David Friedman
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Hear, hear! Maybe his fellows in Israel should think about that.

Greetings :)
 
a spin off.

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Precise navigation would enable United States submarines to get an accurate fix of their positions before they launched their SLBMs.The USAF, with two thirds of the nuclear triad, also had requirements for a more accurate and reliable navigation system. The Navy and Air Force were developing their own technologies in parallel to solve what was essentially the same problem. To increase the survivability of ICBMs, there was a proposal to use mobile launch platforms (such as Russian SS-24 and SS-25) and so the need to fix the launch position had similarity to the SLBM situation.

In 1960, the Air Force proposed a radio-navigation system called MOSAIC (MObile System for Accurate ICBM Control) that was essentially a 3-D LORAN. A follow-on study, Project 57, was worked in 1963 and it was "in this study that the GPS concept was born". That same year, the concept was pursued as Project 621B, which had "many of the attributes that you now see in GPS" and promised increased accuracy for Air Force bombers as well as ICBMs. Updates from the Navy Transit system were too slow for the high speeds of Air Force operation.The Navy Research Laboratory continued advancements with their Timation (Time Navigation) satellites, first launched in 1967, and with the third one in 1974 carrying the first atomic clock into orbit.
Another important predecessor to GPS came from a different branch of the United States military. In 1964, the United States Army orbited its first Sequential Collation of Range (SECOR) satellite used for geodetic surveying. The SECOR system included three ground-based transmitters from known locations that would send signals to the satellite transponder in orbit. A fourth ground-based station, at an undetermined position, could then use those signals to fix its location precisely. The last SECOR satellite was launched in 1969. Decades later, during the early years of GPS, civilian surveying became one of the first fields to make use of the new technology, because surveyors could reap benefits of signals from the less-than-complete GPS constellation years before it was declared operational. GPS can be thought of as an evolution of the SECOR system where the ground-based transmitters have been migrated into orbit.
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One must learn before one can teach. your GPS system was born to target nuclear warheads accurately. To attain 0 CEP [Circular Error Probability]
your GPS if war started would put US warheads within 50 feet of target .launched from Montana
" strategic air and missile forces based at Malmstrom Air Force Basein Great Falls. The base also hosted the 29th Fighter Interceptor Squadron, Air Defense Command from 1953 to 1968. In December 1959, Malmstrom AFB was selected as the home of the new Minuteman Iballistic missile. The first operational missiles were in-place and ready in early 1962. In late 1962 missiles assigned to the 341st Strategic Missile Wing would play a major role in the Cuban Missile Crisis. When the Soviets removed their missiles from Cuba, President John F. Kennedy said the Soviets backed down because they knew he had an "Ace in the Hole," referring directly to the Minuteman missiles in Montana. Montana eventually became home to the largest ICBM field in the U.S. covering 23,500 square miles (61,000 km2).
and still is
 
Sempai

Well said.

Gandhi was a brave soul. And very smart and committed.
willing to die for a belief. i know little of his story. I am remiss in that i cannot be everywhere.
your post will set me true to learning something of Gandhi

few ever reach that stage of integrity [Gandhi]


gudie
 
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One must learn before one can teach. your GPS system was born to target nuclear warheads accurately. To attain 0 CEP [Circular Error Probability]
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Yes, and because of the porn industry we now have You tube. Not really exactly true, but The pron industry could and was willing (and did) to invest in methods to play videos via internet. So they gave it a big push.
On the same line VHS won the VCR battle because i had a larger porncollection then Betanmax.

So apparently the world revolves around sex and war?
 
Bert the internet is pron.
----40% up of all net activity is sex porn.--------
I believe figures are wrong 60% is more accurate.

30% is facebook and like minded.

every day 100 peta bytes of crap moves across planet. 10% of it has any real information.

mobile phones.
99.8 % of mobile phone conversation is total crud. .02% in business. that's a million calls +

When i was 10. phones were something adults used . and not often.
now
i cant walk down street or enter shop without bumping into some twat staring at little phone screen, mesmerized by the power of apparent communication. the 'i can talk, but what do i say syndrome' for just 9.95 a week.
mobiles give power. and self empowerment is right up there with immortallity
 
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