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Lord Bane (FGM)
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I think that they would stay loyal to the US or would head back to Israel to defend it because the US would crush Israel in a very short time.
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Wigam
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You really think that the USA would be the only target POS ? I say the brits would be just a ripe target as the US. You make the US out to be the sole reason for the tensions. "EYES OPEN SHUT"
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PoorOldSpike
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It goes without saying that although the muslim world sees America as 'The Great Satan' and ringleader, it also sees other pro-US countries us as 'America's poodles on a leash' so no country is safe.
Once muslims get nukes all hell will break loose, because although the merchant ship scenario using a huge nuclear bomb is quite possible, it's also possible that they'll use small portable suitcase-nukes carried in backpacks or shopping bags instead.
Scenario:- a group of insurgents approach a countries coastline in a merchant ship, sticking to normal shipping lanes so as not to arouse suspicion, then launch several small fast inflatables (probably at night), each carrying a suitcase-nuke and driven by a suicide bomber, then fan out to cover the final 20 miles to the shore at high speed, almost invisible on radar. The Coastguard might detect and intercept one or two, but at least one will probably get through.
The suicide bomber beaches the craft at a quiet spot, then walks inland looking like an innocent backpacker and detonates his nuke anywhere he chooses, such as a city centre, military barracks, dockyard, airport, packed football stadium, your kids school etc.
PS- instead of inflatables they could also use mini-submarines to guarantee an undetected run-in to the shore, launched from the merchant ship miles out at sea.
Or they could fly a helo off the ship to come in fast and low, tossing out the suitcase-nuke over the White House or Houses of Parliament etc.
The bottom line is that they don't do all this just for fun, they do it because they regard America and her Allies as their enemy, so we need to sit down and work out how we can defuse the situation by negotiating with them while we still can..
Once muslims get nukes all hell will break loose, because although the merchant ship scenario using a huge nuclear bomb is quite possible, it's also possible that they'll use small portable suitcase-nukes carried in backpacks or shopping bags instead.
Scenario:- a group of insurgents approach a countries coastline in a merchant ship, sticking to normal shipping lanes so as not to arouse suspicion, then launch several small fast inflatables (probably at night), each carrying a suitcase-nuke and driven by a suicide bomber, then fan out to cover the final 20 miles to the shore at high speed, almost invisible on radar. The Coastguard might detect and intercept one or two, but at least one will probably get through.
The suicide bomber beaches the craft at a quiet spot, then walks inland looking like an innocent backpacker and detonates his nuke anywhere he chooses, such as a city centre, military barracks, dockyard, airport, packed football stadium, your kids school etc.
PS- instead of inflatables they could also use mini-submarines to guarantee an undetected run-in to the shore, launched from the merchant ship miles out at sea.
Or they could fly a helo off the ship to come in fast and low, tossing out the suitcase-nuke over the White House or Houses of Parliament etc.
The bottom line is that they don't do all this just for fun, they do it because they regard America and her Allies as their enemy, so we need to sit down and work out how we can defuse the situation by negotiating with them while we still can..
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Bert Blitzkrieg
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I think this question is inappropriate. I find it bordering on anti-semitism. Why would US citizens of Jewsh origin behave differently from the way US citizens of German descent behaved in WW2 ?
And the internment in WW2 of citizens of Japanese descent by the US wasn't the best thing they did...
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Bert Blitzkrieg
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@ POS: so your solution to the US (and other countries which support Israel in the eyes of terrorists) is to give in to the terrorists ?
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PoorOldSpike
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As Churchill said "Jaw-jaw is better than war-war", so yes, let's hear the muslim demands and begin negotiating.
They must hate us for a reason, so let's find out what those reasons are and address them..
They must hate us for a reason, so let's find out what those reasons are and address them..
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Lord Bane (FGM)
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The reasons are that we exist. Are you going to convert or die. That is your two choices.
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zaraza
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Hahahah
Funny one...
Funny one...
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Cargol
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It's easy to flag a question as inappropriate just because it makes you feel uncomfortable.
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Bert Blitzkrieg
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Yep. Same reason why Obama said he didn't want to show the pictures of a dead Osama bin Laden.
I did state that it was my view. I feel by stating that question the way you did, you imply jews to act different from other people in the same situation. Perhaps that was not your intention ?
Again, this is how I interpret your question
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Cargol
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Isnt that the case?Dont remember any US Citizen of German descent joining Wehrmacht when WWII broke out.
That goes to Italian and Japanese as well.
I want to remind you that by the moment WWII started US was a neutral country.
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Bert Blitzkrieg
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Not as far as I know.
I heard there were. But there were also German nationals who left their country and fought for the allies.
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USS Wyoming
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Ah, I believe there were Japanese, Germans, French and I'm sure other nationalities who left their home country's and joined either the Axis or the Allies. I don't believe Ambros would have included just such an encounter in his book Band of Brothers had it not been the case. I have also just finished reading Unbroken and it referenced a Californian of Japanese decent, who I thought was a citizen and...a full fledged supporter of Imperial Japan. He was later recognized by the main American character in this biography while interred in a POW camp in Japan, where the Japanese American served as interrogator. While not common, I imagine you would find instances among most nations involved in WW2.
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seel
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In reading the book "Rangers in WW II" there was a couple pages dedicated to a German-American they encountered. He was a squad leader who held an opposing hill, he met the Rangers for a possible surrender and they asked why he spoke such good English. Apparently he lived in the US and got a degree from Michigan State University in hotel managment then the war started and he went back to Germany. Not sure if he had U.S. citizenship though.
The Rangers called in arty and found his body the next day.
Oh, and I think what the terrorists are demanding are bigger and more accurate bombs, the current ones are not sending enough of them to paradise, virgins and all that mumbo jumbo so by all means we should listen to their demands. I stress I am no expert but this is my understanding.
The Rangers called in arty and found his body the next day.
Oh, and I think what the terrorists are demanding are bigger and more accurate bombs, the current ones are not sending enough of them to paradise, virgins and all that mumbo jumbo so by all means we should listen to their demands. I stress I am no expert but this is my understanding.
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Tanker
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Cargol, I believe it is pernicious to single out people of the Jewish race as somehow being potentially more treacherous than anyone else.
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Tanker
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It goes without saying that although the muslim world sees America as 'The Great Satan' and ringleader, it also sees other pro-US countries us as 'America's poodles on a leash' so no country is safe.
Once muslims get nukes all hell will break loose, because although the merchant ship scenario using a huge nuclear bomb is quite possible, it's also possible that they'll use small portable suitcase-nukes carried in backpacks or shopping bags instead.
Scenario:- a group of insurgents approach a countries coastline in a merchant ship, sticking to normal shipping lanes so as not to arouse suspicion, then launch several small fast inflatables (probably at night), each carrying a suitcase-nuke and driven by a suicide bomber, then fan out to cover the final 20 miles to the shore at high speed, almost invisible on radar. The Coastguard might detect and intercept one or two, but at least one will probably get through.
The suicide bomber beaches the craft at a quiet spot, then walks inland looking like an innocent backpacker and detonates his nuke anywhere he chooses, such as a city centre, military barracks, dockyard, airport, packed football stadium, your kids school etc.
PS- instead of inflatables they could also use mini-submarines to guarantee an undetected run-in to the shore, launched from the merchant ship miles out at sea.
Or they could fly a helo off the ship to come in fast and low, tossing out the suitcase-nuke over the White House or Houses of Parliament etc.
The bottom line is that they don't do all this just for fun, they do it because they regard America and her Allies as their enemy, so we need to sit down and work out how we can defuse the situation by negotiating with them while we still can..
So you think you can negotiate with Al-Qaida? I guess we could surrender and set up Sharia law and convert to Islam.
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Tanker
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Pull them out of your hat all day. The original issue was that you said Isreal "pinched" palestian territory in 1948. I offered a quote that indicated that the Arab leaders themselves encouraged the population to leave so they could go to war with Isreal. No quote that you have posted has supported your contention.
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Cargol
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I ve asked a question, the assumption is yours and it makes me thing that u are rushing to defend the Jewish race,are you by incident a Jew?
BTW i m sure u wouldnt be so sensitive if for example i was asking the same question about Arabs or Muslims.
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zaraza
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PoorOldSpike
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Well if that was the case why didn't Israel simply wait and let the Palestinians abandon Palestine?..
It'd do no harm to ask AQ to list all their demands, then we could go through them one by one and maybe agree to some to ease tensions.
I've never meet a Jew I didn't like, they're generally warm friendly people, but it has to be said some are no angels either.
For example many concentration camp guards were jewish (the dreaded 'kapos') and were just as brutal as the SS.
Later, when the Brits and Israel were fighting each other, Israel hung two captured Brit Army POW's which was technically a war crime.
And nowadays we see on TV jewish bulldozers demolishing Palestinian villages on the west bank to make way for new jewish settlements.
But its all academic anyway, Israel will be wiped out as soon as the Arabs get nukes; Bin Laden has gone but there are many more Arab leaders who share his sentiments-
"Acquiring weapons for the defense of Muslims is a religious duty. If I have indeed acquired these weapons, then I thank God for enabling me to do so.
And if I seek to acquire these weapons, I am carrying out a duty.
It would be a sin for Muslims not to try to possess the weapons that would prevent the infidels from inflicting harm on Muslims."
-Bin Laden responding to the question "are you trying to acquire chemical and nuclear weapons?": Time Magazine Dec 1998